tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post421696813323348181..comments2024-02-27T07:37:46.350-05:00Comments on K-Line: The Net Effect of Changing Length Above The Armscye (When You're Knitting Flat a Bottom-Up Sweater) with Set In SleevesK.Linehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-66094597778209053692013-02-08T10:21:18.864-05:002013-02-08T10:21:18.864-05:00Sorry! I assure you, I'm not jumping into this...Sorry! I assure you, I'm not jumping into this kettle of fish again anytime soon :-)K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-61485672471281105902013-02-08T07:14:16.569-05:002013-02-08T07:14:16.569-05:00I think I'd be weeping if I were you. This ma...I think I'd be weeping if I were you. This makes my head hurt too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07596383615211328302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-30420929180372175902013-01-28T10:15:30.493-05:002013-01-28T10:15:30.493-05:00I know. And after this weekend of jacket fitting, ...I know. And after this weekend of jacket fitting, I'm ready to curl up in a ball.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-43398271485277655392013-01-28T10:13:59.843-05:002013-01-28T10:13:59.843-05:00Glad to hear it! I know she has a very good reputa...Glad to hear it! I know she has a very good reputation.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-18012565653466318822013-01-27T11:18:21.791-05:002013-01-27T11:18:21.791-05:00LOL File this under: it might be time to find the ...LOL File this under: it might be time to find the local chapter of overachievers anonymous. ;-)Cliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552253628640209694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-24616306625930464782013-01-26T18:10:00.815-05:002013-01-26T18:10:00.815-05:00Oh good, I'm glad to know you recommend Kathle...Oh good, I'm glad to know you recommend Kathleen. I'd already found her and ordered the book & applied to join the forum. Her post on sleeve cap ease being bogus was really interesting and informative. Basically Martin drapes to himself but it's nice knowing the technical reasons why his sleeve cap shape matches hers. <br /><br />We're not planning to sell constructed garments, just the patterns, assuming we can figure it out. (We successfully digitized our first shape this morning. So exciting!) Martin will get to wear the samples, as a bonus.<br /><br />As for the sloper, once we figure out the CAD process it should be possible to offer Martin and a more average variation. Since we're printing one at a time we might even be able to offer custom patterns adjusted to specific measurements. We'll see.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15711792521348799922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-16440500680442719542013-01-26T08:01:34.090-05:002013-01-26T08:01:34.090-05:00Gotta go check out your blog comment reply. Whenev...Gotta go check out your blog comment reply. Whenever I read your posts I am so impressed by the the care you take to ensure fit is spot on and that the properties of the pattern are well-executed. I am sure you would go at least this far under the same circumstances. At least you're game to rip things back :-)K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-26570764829713317962013-01-26T08:00:02.565-05:002013-01-26T08:00:02.565-05:00Honestly, Jo, I've had a headache since Thursd...Honestly, Jo, I've had a headache since Thursday. And you are NOT lazy!K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-15525956359163320942013-01-26T07:59:05.532-05:002013-01-26T07:59:05.532-05:00There are def elements that hold, for ex. the gene...There are def elements that hold, for ex. the general shape of a symmetrical sleeve (though the best drafted sleeves for wovens are not symmetrical to account for their lack of stretch and the increased length of the front armscye) and the need to ensure that the length of the sleeve from armpit to top is the same as that of the armsyce.<br /><br />Thing is that hand-knitted fabric (and then, in its own way, machine knitted fabric) have different fitting properties because they have so much relative give.<br /><br />Practically, they're different beasts.<br /><br />Martin really has to check out this blog and join her forum, if he hasn't already. This woman is a commercial pattern drafter and clothing designer (for others) and what she talks about will be very germane to what you're trying to work out: http://fashion-incubator.com/<br /><br />Kathleen's book would be invaluable to you, I suspect.<br /><br />I don't know what will be easier to grade or to manufacture - and what will be more cost effective - Martin's sloper shape or something more average - but I think that's got to weigh into the decision. This is, on some level, about sustainable business.<br /><br />Having invested in that beautiful dress form, I hope you get lots of use from it, even if only to fit shirts for Martin himself. Of course, once you decide to be clothiers, I wonder how many shirts either of you will be making for yourselves :-)K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-14202705936371965592013-01-26T05:52:21.857-05:002013-01-26T05:52:21.857-05:00As mentioned in a comment to you on my blog ...thi...As mentioned in a comment to you on my blog ...this post blew me away. I got caught up in a web of Knitty technical articles and then lost the ability to read!<br /><br />It all seems so complicated. <br /><br />And here I was worrying about whether or not to try and knit a top with splitty 2ply yarn! <br /><br />Thanks, Kristin, for putting it into perspective. ;-)<br /><br />You'll sort it out. You always do.Lindahttp://fromthepurlside.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-84374932243384618672013-01-26T03:02:33.971-05:002013-01-26T03:02:33.971-05:00Oh you really have a knack for making my head spin...Oh you really have a knack for making my head spin. I fudged the sleeves on my Milena cardigan because I lengthened the armholes. But it wasn't too hard cos they were just short row sleeves. My brain is so lazy that I hope I never encounter this problem lol :P (Surely I will though!)<br /><br />Good luck! :)Johannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04719917783641156738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-54513095002469913062013-01-25T18:45:36.801-05:002013-01-25T18:45:36.801-05:00He does have several, and we've ordered more, ...He does have several, and we've ordered more, but I just assumed that a mathematical shape relationship would hold regardless of the material. Am I wrong about that? I'm going to study Gail's post anyway even if it doesn't fully apply. <br /><br />There's a sloper dilemma we're dealing with too, since we didn't invest in an "average" form. Martin is the sloper, and he's close to an average size 42, but his neck circumference is larger and his waist is narrower. The CAD grading function just adds horizontal and vertical increments based on rules for a particular sloper, so Martin's unique dimensions would proportionally scale up and down with grading. We are wondering whether it's best to adjust the sloper design to be more average before grading, or just use Martin as the sloper and provide good instructions on adjustments, since the average sloper grading doesn't necessarily fit either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15711792521348799922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-77829738042166748252013-01-25T16:18:30.746-05:002013-01-25T16:18:30.746-05:00Susan: Hand knitted fabric works extremely differe...Susan: Hand knitted fabric works extremely differently than woven fabric when it comes to sleeves and their insertion. Of course, there are intersections when it comes to drafting the right sleeve shape for the armsyce. But it's a more complicated process, I suspect, when designing a woven shirt. Really, he should have access to some very kick-ass drafting books given the challenge he's about to take on.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-65115447966302760782013-01-25T16:16:45.739-05:002013-01-25T16:16:45.739-05:00It is an accomplishment! And it keeps baby feet to...It is an accomplishment! And it keeps baby feet toasty! Thanks C xK.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-9345532671349481662013-01-25T16:16:04.363-05:002013-01-25T16:16:04.363-05:00True story: I almost said fuck it and started a ne...True story: I almost said fuck it and started a new pair of socks. But my goal is to make my next pair of socks simultaneously on one needle using magic loop. Something I've never attempted. At which point I actually started to laugh. Only I would decide to leave a project I don't understand to start a new project using a method I have no understanding of. Esp. when my other craft time this weekend will be spent trying to fit a freakin' tailored suit jacket. Egad.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-13377468672402983742013-01-25T16:13:46.657-05:002013-01-25T16:13:46.657-05:00OK, I've emailed a hideously long and complica...OK, I've emailed a hideously long and complicated thing. I really hope you can make sense of it. Thank you so much!!K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-3908590464622595202013-01-25T15:09:21.061-05:002013-01-25T15:09:21.061-05:00Wow. I've bookmarked this post for Martin as h...Wow. I've bookmarked this post for Martin as he's been running into issues with the sleeve/armscye interface in adjusting his shirt design. It figures there's a mathematical relationship.<br /><br />I just read on Mater's blog that you read 175 blogs a day. Is that really true ?!?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15711792521348799922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-27490866817390974002013-01-25T14:31:42.943-05:002013-01-25T14:31:42.943-05:00Oh wow! I thought making a baby booty was an accom...Oh wow! I thought making a baby booty was an accomplishment!! (It is actually, for me!)<br /><br />hahaha, serious... such time and beautiful work, well worth every hour spent!<br /><br />Much love, bundana xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03868738547454207596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-81458336614098567752013-01-25T14:01:45.999-05:002013-01-25T14:01:45.999-05:00alexandrav at gmail
I'm on weird hours, so yo...alexandrav at gmail<br /><br />I'm on weird hours, so you may not get an immediate reply.Alexandrahttp://alexandravirgiel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-75110758718562768532013-01-25T12:11:51.919-05:002013-01-25T12:11:51.919-05:00Wow. This may be why I stick to socks! LOL I serio...Wow. This may be why I stick to socks! LOL I seriously have a growing list of your posts that I've bookmarked under the heading "For My Next Sweater". Cliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552253628640209694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-73002767755063267332013-01-25T09:23:50.550-05:002013-01-25T09:23:50.550-05:00I really find that hard to believe :-)
I am obses...I really find that hard to believe :-)<br /><br />I am obsessed with resolving this. Seriously, I've had a headache for 36 hours from the sheer force of thinking.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-20100761975033030102013-01-25T09:23:11.210-05:002013-01-25T09:23:11.210-05:00Ha! Well, all's well that ends well.Ha! Well, all's well that ends well.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-89028868315588287902013-01-25T09:22:49.164-05:002013-01-25T09:22:49.164-05:00Thanks Karen. I'm thrilled if it makes even pa...Thanks Karen. I'm thrilled if it makes even partial sense to someone else. I agree with your rationale and my goal is to try to keep the same math up to the inflection point (where the curve goes from convex to concave at the bell). But the idea is that, when you change the length of the outer curve, you have to change the shape and angle of the sleeve curve. And that's where things get less knowable.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-90948023281016142422013-01-25T09:04:11.064-05:002013-01-25T09:04:11.064-05:00Thanks! I look at my progress so far and all I can...Thanks! I look at my progress so far and all I can see is the thing I haven't figured out yet. Hmmm...K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-85654622213941592142013-01-25T09:03:43.390-05:002013-01-25T09:03:43.390-05:00Oh, how awesome (for me). Thank you. I know we'...Oh, how awesome (for me). Thank you. I know we've emailed but I can't find your address. Will you email it to me or leave it in a comment here? I'm at kristinm100 at yahoo dot ca.<br /><br />I have a litany of emails to Gail (and to Susan Crawford, the designer). Maybe on the basis of that info I've compiled, you will be able to provide advice.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.com