tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post3454314333188321261..comments2024-02-27T07:37:46.350-05:00Comments on K-Line: In Which I Tell It Like I See ItK.Linehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-52434176528839374022012-07-21T14:27:08.489-04:002012-07-21T14:27:08.489-04:00Good for you.
A couple of months ago, someone as...Good for you. <br /><br />A couple of months ago, someone asked on a forum whether they should pay $89 to take Gretchen's class and I said I didn't think it would be worth the money. I felt a little bad, but wanted to be honest. <br /><br />I said it might be interesting -- one learns from lots of different experiences -- but in my opinion she did not have the experience to be teaching a tailoring class, much less a tailoring class online and charging that kind of money. More recently, I saw that she was offering a day-long session styled as a "Master Class" and charging something like $500.<br /><br />People can do with their money what they want, it's not my concern or affair, but I find it rather insulting to professionals with decades of experience who have taught or tutored me who have charged much less.<br /><br />Gretchen's aesthetic is very different from mine, but obviously she has a following. She is not uncreative and it's fascinating to observe her ascent from semi-anonymous home sewing blogger to so-called sewing professional. But I completely agree that when you slap on the label "professional" and charge rates higher than professionals who by any standard are more experienced than you are you have to expect some push-back. <br /><br />I check in on her blog every now and then because sometimes it discusses local sewing supply sources.<br /><br /><br />I'm taking the Susan Khalje "Couture Dress" class. I have extreme technical problems with it if I don't have a fast connection. The pattern took much longer than expected to arrive and Craftsy's customer service leaves something to be desired. Although Ms. Khalje is still responding to questions, I too, wondered how anyone could reasonably expect a teacher to keep answering questions; maybe there's something in the payment structure.<br /><br />I like the course, but have had experience, including having taken an introductory couture sewing class. I signed up to spur myself to make something.<br /><br />Having had experience, I also know that any online class has its limits. For example, you can't learn fitting from a $40 class, you can learn the basic PRINCIPLES. Fitting requires practice and experience and if you're not shaped like a classic fit model, someone may have to work with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-71569119670685787062012-05-27T16:18:05.526-04:002012-05-27T16:18:05.526-04:00Kristin, thank you for telling it like it is. I...Kristin, thank you for telling it like it is. I've been attracted to a few of these courses but will tread carefully. ElleC's point is a good one: what would have happened if you didn't get some help? I have a feeling you would not have continued. It was getting really crazy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15711792521348799922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-18507525026681815912012-05-22T15:36:03.092-04:002012-05-22T15:36:03.092-04:00M: I'm curious to know how you could see chall...M: I'm curious to know how you could see challenges in the pattern - was this from reading my account or by looking at the jacket itself? I really hope that the new Craftsy platform ameliorates the interface problems I was plagued by during the Suit Jacket course. I'm not brave enough to jump back in till I read other accounts. But I really want to take Kenneth King's course...K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-24182600874530444622012-05-22T15:34:04.123-04:002012-05-22T15:34:04.123-04:00Amy: Thanks for the update. And I did notice the C...Amy: Thanks for the update. And I did notice the Craftsy user interface had a complete facelift - probably 5 minutes after I finished needing it! I note also that it appears to remove time stamping from the questions posted once there's a response (at least it did when last I looked). Net result is that there's no archival evidence of the length of time between question asked and answered. I find that interesting.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-64670766551871122262012-05-22T14:02:51.965-04:002012-05-22T14:02:51.965-04:00This is a great review, interesting, well-thought ...This is a great review, interesting, well-thought out, and well stated. I am not yet particularly familiar with craftsy but am intrigued by some good classes by good teachers and I am looking forward to being able to explore the options.<br /><br />As to this pattern and class, it seemed obvious to me that the pattern had problems and although I love Gertie's blog, and agree that she is a fabulous inspiration to those new to sewing, pattern drafting takes a lot of experience and practice. Enthusiasm is great, and if anything the sewing community can use all the enthusiasm and inspiration it can get, but eventually enthusiasm has to yield to mastery. And the trick will be how to meld the two in complementary ways.Mardelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04850551308931710502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-418791833007049242012-05-15T02:07:13.692-04:002012-05-15T02:07:13.692-04:00I've taken this post any many of your others a...I've taken this post any many of your others about this class to heart. The Craftsy interface has changed recently, and it looks like Gertie has popped in to answer many of the long unanswered questions, so hopefully they're listening. I'll keep you posted as I being to muddle through this course.Amyhttp://sewwell.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-87935478108601629172012-05-13T19:58:36.303-04:002012-05-13T19:58:36.303-04:00It has been very advertised, I agree!
Pattern dra...It has been very advertised, I agree!<br /><br />Pattern drafting is the ne plus ultra of sewing, IMO. I can't imagine how long it will take me to feel like I can manage that. :-)K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-63469859891784039502012-05-13T14:57:00.321-04:002012-05-13T14:57:00.321-04:00This is indeed an interesting and balanced review....This is indeed an interesting and balanced review. To be honest, I have never used Craftsy, but this course has been quite actively advertised, not just by Gertie herself but also through Burdastyle (which I find a bit worrying, in the light of your comments), so I've known about it for a while.<br /><br />I agree with Phyllis that pattern making takes experience, and lots of it. It is not particularly difficult to learn but it quite difficult to master and a hell of a lot more difficult to master to the kind of degree which will allow you to make user-friendly multi-size patterns.Laurianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16602295642057814667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-77571749088944100642012-05-12T16:04:16.525-04:002012-05-12T16:04:16.525-04:00Oh, I'm sure the time will come eventually :-)...Oh, I'm sure the time will come eventually :-)K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-28931104539824886482012-05-12T16:03:56.159-04:002012-05-12T16:03:56.159-04:00Thanks Carolyn!Thanks Carolyn!K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-29533718245264026352012-05-12T16:02:49.214-04:002012-05-12T16:02:49.214-04:00Karen - I think this is one of the most balanced p...Karen - I think this is one of the most balanced posts that I've ever read critiquing a course. You did good!Carolyn (Diary of a Sewing Fanatic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02204627216540667980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-89354825953838755842012-05-12T15:37:46.982-04:002012-05-12T15:37:46.982-04:00Thank you for your honesty! I will bear this in mi...Thank you for your honesty! I will bear this in mind when taking this course (although I have no clue when I'll be able to).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054640961472954823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-4549128357720560092012-05-12T14:38:18.906-04:002012-05-12T14:38:18.906-04:00I think, see above, that the platform may be bette...I think, see above, that the platform may be better, just in the last couple of days.<br /><br />Thanks so much for posting this comment - and thanks for your lovely compliment about the suit!K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-51753388976119276252012-05-12T14:37:13.372-04:002012-05-12T14:37:13.372-04:00M: Thanks so much for this comment. It's reall...M: Thanks so much for this comment. It's really important for me to be honest but respectful. I'm glad you see my post in that light.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-43198009746865082932012-05-12T14:33:21.592-04:002012-05-12T14:33:21.592-04:00Thanks for providing your perspective Caroline. I&...Thanks for providing your perspective Caroline. I'm really happy that has been your experience.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-53343467871272460302012-05-12T14:32:48.985-04:002012-05-12T14:32:48.985-04:00I WOULD be on muslin 127! Thank goodness for all o...I WOULD be on muslin 127! Thank goodness for all of you wonderful readers and my fitting friend! See comments above, Elle. It seems that, just in the past couple of days, Craftsy has made some serious user interface changes. I note with interest that the user comments aren't date-marked anymore.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-34957455868872903852012-05-12T14:31:24.145-04:002012-05-12T14:31:24.145-04:00I think you plan to use it in an optimal way.I think you plan to use it in an optimal way.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-79754992323787382572012-05-12T14:30:55.877-04:002012-05-12T14:30:55.877-04:00Your process was smooth, I agree. I'm so pleas...Your process was smooth, I agree. I'm so pleased for you that you had that experience. Thanks for putting this perspective on the table.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-37058437188464152212012-05-12T14:29:56.066-04:002012-05-12T14:29:56.066-04:00I totally intend to take Kenneth King's course...I totally intend to take Kenneth King's course - as soon as I'm certain that Craftsy sorts out the (possible) bandwidth issue. I SO agree with you about Gretchen representing a new era of sewing "celebrity". As you may know, I am a cusp learner from that perspective - having taken up sewing in the last 3 yrs but being almost 42.<br /><br />I have a great respect for the generations before mine but I also enjoy seeing a youthful take on things. In this regard, however, at this time, I am inclined to agree with your take on things.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-75697137697796444312012-05-12T14:26:17.746-04:002012-05-12T14:26:17.746-04:00Ha! Trust me, I've lost track of the number of...Ha! Trust me, I've lost track of the number of muslins. It's better that way. As I mentioned above, Craftsy seems to have made some substantive user interface changes to the platform in just the last couple of days. I wonder if this will help things...K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-54117794059267096382012-05-12T14:25:05.853-04:002012-05-12T14:25:05.853-04:00Thanks for this, Sassy.Thanks for this, Sassy.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-14175448663710986172012-05-12T14:24:50.020-04:002012-05-12T14:24:50.020-04:00Stevie: I'm sorry to hear that you have had th...Stevie: I'm sorry to hear that you have had the same experience with the platform. Today I went back into it and I noted there has been a serious refresh. Seems they may have resolved some issues (not that I can say for sure, I just watch small amounts of the course to review the new user interface). I hope it improves your use of the course.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-47999597890804935132012-05-12T14:23:25.290-04:002012-05-12T14:23:25.290-04:00I'd have to say, with a LOT of help from other...I'd have to say, with a LOT of help from others :-) Thanks for your perspective, Katy.K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-13261392724593054212012-05-12T14:22:49.656-04:002012-05-12T14:22:49.656-04:00Your perspective is so fascinating. I suspect I...Your perspective is so fascinating. I suspect I'm moving towards slopers also...K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1606088928583067206.post-82029837222142589092012-05-12T14:22:02.784-04:002012-05-12T14:22:02.784-04:00Thanks Shams!Thanks Shams!K.Linehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15350615302797686048noreply@blogger.com